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Loviatar · Jun 01, 2006, 08:53 PM // 20:53

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Originally Posted by Tickle

40 hours after the banning and still no word from support, I have since emailed them again..

are you emailing them or did you open a support ticket?

did you respond to the automated response in less than 24 hours?

if it has been this long without a response make a fresh support ticket and do the above.

Twonaiver · Jun 01, 2006, 08:53 PM // 20:53

Its a good thing bots are beein banned but the damage was already done in the economy for this long time they waited monitorin them, dup gold and items crashed the economy more than once and will still goin since e-bay finaces more accounts for them to dup more stuff and f**k even more the economy.

Loviatar · Jun 01, 2006, 08:56 PM // 20:56

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Originally Posted by Twonaiver

dup gold and items crashed the economy more than once and will still goin since e-bay finaces more accounts for them to dup more stuff and f**k even more the economy.

learn a bit of what you speak of before babbling.

everything is SERVER SIDE not CLIENT SIDE.

which means no duping of gold or items.

go back to diablo

Retribution · Jun 01, 2006, 09:30 PM // 21:30

Wow it took them THIS long to ban 1,000 acounts?? They could've gotten double the number by camping GM's in Elona, Droks, and a few other spots for a week! Sorry this announcement by Anet dissapoints like someone saying *We acheived world peace! Too bad there's no habitable world left*

ArTy · Jun 02, 2006, 12:16 AM // 00:16

A shame that Elona is still Mo/W paradise. What i've been noticing alot lately is the major spamming of WTB for -50 offhands. They must be in a rush to recreate their 55ing bots

Down with bots! Taunt them by offering the item, but never completing the trade

Loviatar · Jun 02, 2006, 12:31 AM // 00:31

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Originally Posted by ArTy

A shame that Elona is still Mo/W paradise. What i've been noticing alot lately is the major spamming of WTB for -50 offhands. They

what are they offering as i have a bunch of them gathering virtual dust

ArTy · Jun 02, 2006, 12:35 AM // 00:35

Most of the Chinese farmbot spammers are offering 5K, but don't give in to them

You can't miss them. Just visit Ascalon or Droks D1, and you will see them spam WTBs non-stop...like every 2 seconds.

MaglorD · Jun 02, 2006, 12:47 AM // 00:47

I was just wondering what if the game didn't allow anyone to sell/transfer items or gold to other players only to merchants, wouldn't that stop the botting, since there's no incentive to bot anymore?

Loviatar · Jun 02, 2006, 12:50 AM // 00:50

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Originally Posted by ArTy

Most of the Chinese farmbot spammers are offering 5K, but don't give in to them

You can't miss them. Just visit Ascalon or Droks D1, and you will see them spam WTBs non-stop...like every 2 seconds.

for that price i would give them away (not to a bot though)

Tickle · Jun 02, 2006, 12:51 AM // 00:51

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Originally Posted by Loviatar

are you emailing them or did you open a support ticket?

did you respond to the automated response in less than 24 hours?

if it has been this long without a response make a fresh support ticket and do the above.

Done, they added it to the previous ticket since it pertains to the same incident. Just wish they would hurry up and give me a reason as to why...

castanaveras · Jun 02, 2006, 01:03 AM // 01:03

what so great about Elona? I don't get why so many Mo/Ws farm there....they must have made a profit or something hmmm.....

Fyre Brand · Jun 02, 2006, 01:38 AM // 01:38

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Originally Posted by MaglorD

I was just wondering what if the game didn't allow anyone to sell/transfer items or gold to other players only to merchants, wouldn't that stop the botting, since there's no incentive to bot anymore?

That's not a totally bad idea and has been mentioned before. The thing is many people enjoy the trader game. I personally hate it, but that doesn't mean that players shouldn't be allowed to create that in the game for themselves.

I read in another thread a slightly better (in my opinion) take on your idea. It is to have traders for weapons and mods, not just merchents. That way players can make more for their mods than 25 - 50g and many people wouldn't waste their time spamming the trade chat channels. But it would still give those who enjoy that the opportunity to play trader.

Arlan and Tickle all I can say about your situation is that if you're innocent then I feel for your long battle with support. NCSoft support is fairly meticulous and it will likely take some time to get your issues resolved. I have had a few support tickets open with them over the years and I usually end up just giving up whatever issue I emailed them about.

Tickle · Jun 02, 2006, 01:44 AM // 01:44

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Originally Posted by Fyre Brand

Arlan and Tickle all I can say about your situation is that if you're innocent then I feel for your long battle with support. NCSoft support is fairly meticulous and it will likely take some time to get your issues resolved. I have had a few support tickets open with them over the years and I usually end up just giving up whatever issue I emailed them about.

Thanks, hopefully if NCSoft can just manage to get back to me or even check my account history then that might sway them.

SAQ · Jun 02, 2006, 02:00 AM // 02:00

My account has no history of trading with other GW players (except with my brother) and I don't play with anyone else except RL friends and family.

My account has been banned I believe because of my character from Cantha was in Droknars International 1 to buy some Prophecy skills who happened to be a Mo/W... neither is my character a 55 monk, she does not have any sup runes and no -50hp offhand.

vferry · Jun 02, 2006, 02:00 AM // 02:00

People are still making statements as facts while incorrect:

- Bots are not people, they are computer programs
- They don't pay 50$ a copy for them, they steal accounts using so called cheat/exploit program's
- They are not 100 people running 100 bots, more like one or a few organisations running a lot of bots
- Bot's were gone for a few hours at most, while running for about a month now. It's crowded with bots again in elona's. The thread title then seems very overoptimistic to me then.

- Sending A-net (or there support) screenshots of the bots hasn't changed anything, sending them lists of names of bots doesn't do anything, sending them a copy of the script itself apprently can't help either.

It sure feels to me like they just don't care.

Demesis · Jun 02, 2006, 02:12 AM // 02:12

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Originally Posted by vferry

People are still making statements as facts while incorrect:

- Bots are not people, they are computer programs
- They don't pay 50$ a copy for them, they steal accounts using so called cheat/exploit program's
- They are not 100 people running 100 bots, more like one or a few organisations running a lot of bots
- Bot's were banned for a few hours at most, while running for over a month now. It's crowded with bots again in elona's. The thread title then seems very overoptimistic to me then.

- Sending A-net (or there support) screenshots of the bots hasn't done anything for me in over a month now, sending them lists of names of bots doesn't do anything, sending them a copy of the script itself does not do anything.

It sure feels to me like they just don't care.

Bots were banned for a few hours???

I feel cheated by Anet. I thought they were going to permanently ban the bot accounts. Instead, they ban the botting accounts for a few hours and also banned some innocent bystanders in the process.

My friend has been thinking of getting WoW. Pretty much all this hoo-ha about what Anet is doing is convincing me to get WoW as well.

MaglorD · Jun 02, 2006, 02:12 AM // 02:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fyre Brand

That's not a totally bad idea and has been mentioned before. The thing is many people enjoy the trader game. I personally hate it, but that doesn't mean that players shouldn't be allowed to create that in the game for themselves.

I read in another thread a slightly better (in my opinion) take on your idea. It is to have traders for weapons and mods, not just merchents. That way players can make more for their mods than 25 - 50g and many people wouldn't waste their time spamming the trade chat channels. But it would still give those who enjoy that the opportunity to play trader.

Arlan and Tickle all I can say about your situation is that if you're innocent then I feel for your long battle with support. NCSoft support is fairly meticulous and it will likely take some time to get your issues resolved. I have had a few support tickets open with them over the years and I usually end up just giving up whatever issue I emailed them about.

Playing devil's advocate, so then it's a choice between allowing botting and trading game or neither. I say trash both

MaglorD · Jun 02, 2006, 02:22 AM // 02:22

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Originally Posted by Demesis

Bots were banned for a few hours???

I feel cheated by Anet. I thought they were going to permanently ban the bot accounts. Instead, they ban the botting accounts for a few hours and also banned some innocent bystanders in the process.

My friend has been thinking of getting WoW. Pretty much all this hoo-ha about what Anet is doing is convincing me to get WoW as well.

I am pretty sure they banned the 1000 accounts permanently. But then the botters just recreated their accounts and went back to botting.

Why the botting, because botting is profitable. It's the same in Diablo. People bot to make real money.

I'm beginning to think player trading is bad for MMOs and online games with some kind of economy, as it's one of the primary reasons for the existance of botting. WOW arguably does a better job controlling botting and ebay sales than GW but they have a recurring charge.

Loviatar · Jun 02, 2006, 02:23 AM // 02:23

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Originally Posted by Demesis

Bots were banned for a few hours???

I feel cheated by Anet. I thought they were going to permanently ban the bot accounts. Instead, they ban the botting accounts for a few hours and also banned some innocent bystanders in the process.

My friend has been thinking of getting WoW. Pretty much all this hoo-ha about what Anet is doing is convincing me to get WoW as well.

i really hope you were joking on that post otherwise.............

in case you were actually serious about that here is what was said.

the permabanned accounts are still PERMABANNED.

they have activated NEW accounts to continue business.

CLEAR NOW?

SAQ · Jun 02, 2006, 02:33 AM // 02:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demesis

Bots were banned for a few hours???

I feel cheated by Anet. I thought they were going to permanently ban the bot accounts. Instead, they ban the botting accounts for a few hours and also banned some innocent bystanders in the process.

My friend has been thinking of getting WoW. Pretty much all this hoo-ha about what Anet is doing is convincing me to get WoW as well.

My account was possibly mistaken as a bot account and was banned PERMANENTLY. Not sure how that guy managed to think it's banning for a few hours only.